MadmoiZelle speaks English

[Ithurielle]

Posté par Bill's girlfriend

Alright @Ithurielle, I'm going to try your test, listen to every single video and see If I succeed. ( but I'll probably hardly ever succeed haha).

I'll edit my message when I'm done with the videos ^^

Edit ; Wow I'm surprised of myself ! I had no problem understanding all of them, with the exception of the Manchurian (that was something ). I had a little bit of trouble trying to fully understand what he was saying. And even tho I got 80%... 20% was still messing.

(btw that 20% sounded just gibberish to my ears lol)

Good going! It's Mancunian, though, Manchuria is in China/Russia, not in the UK . In the Scouse video, I find they picked people speaking nice and clearly, 'cause in real life, they're a nightmare to understand, worse than Sir Alex Ferguson (the Mancunian)! But yeah, if you can understand those accents on a daily basis, you should be ok with pretty much everyone. Except maybe Indian people, they can get really difficult to understand!

[Glen Coco]

Posté par Bill's girlfriend

It's so true haha. But that's part of his charm I guess ^^
(Also I do understand him, does this mean I'm able to understand any english speaker ? Oh god, I just aced the Barât Test... I feel so proud )

Haha ! Of course it's part of his charm but it's so annoying sometimes ! And he is sooo sexy in that video, i miss his long hair Anyway, a girl i know talked to Carl on the phone and she said he talks like a chav :sick: That's funny, he's quite understandable in that vid but i'll keep on watching his interviews because Carl is pretty rad

[Sood]

Hey guys! Sorry to bother with boring stuff but I have some work to do in English and I have some difficulties to translate few sentences. I understand them but it's hard to write real "good" French without being too influenced by the English words.

" The attacks of September 11 were many things."

" The power of the USA was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence."

Thank your for your help

[Van Damsel]

Posté par Sood

Hey guys! Sorry to bother with boring stuff but I have some work to do in English and I have some difficulties to translate few sentences. I understand them but it's hard to write real "good" French without being too influenced by the English words.

" The attacks of September 11 were many things."

" The power of the USA was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence."

Thank your for your help

" The attacks of September 11 were many things." = Les attaques du 11 septembre n'étaient pas anodines. / Les attaques du 11 septembre représentaient beaucoup de choses (sous-entendu aux yeux de ...)

"The power of the USA was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence."
Je voudrais une précision : le "it" dans "what it did", ça se rapporte au "power" ou autre chose ?

Si c'est "power", je dirais donc "le pouvoir des États-Unis était vrai et immense et ce qu'il a fait (?) a eu des conséquences mondiales.

[Glen Coco]

Posté par Bill's girlfriend

Noooooo, why does she have to destroy the dream ! I really hope it's not true, that's just so unsexy. (I absolutely can't stand chavs)

But who can stand them ?! She talked to him several times so i guess it's true And yes, it is so unsexy but i didn't really surprise me actually, idk why but Carl can't talk, it's not that hard to articulate correctly and everything, is it ?? But my favorite libertines' always been Peter Even if Carl is really really sexy, Peter's so lovely i wanna cuddle him and make him a cuppa tea and listen to him reading poems, i just fucking love him

[Lenn]

My english friends told me that I had an American accent ( surely because I watch a LOT of american series lol ), but if I watch an English movie for example, I'll just copy their accent ( last time was with the Misfits series, I started talking like Kelly, then I KNEW I had to stop watching this )

Basically I'm a parrot

[Sood]

Posté par Van Damsel

" The attacks of September 11 were many things." = Les attaques du 11 septembre n'étaient pas anodines. / Les attaques du 11 septembre représentaient beaucoup de choses (sous-entendu aux yeux de ...)

"The power of the USA was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence."
Je voudrais une précision : le "it" dans "what it did", ça se rapporte au "power" ou autre chose ?

Si c'est "power", je dirais donc "le pouvoir des États-Unis était vrai et immense et ce qu'il a fait (?) a eu des conséquences mondiales.

Merci pour ta réponse!
Pour la première phrase, j'aime beaucoup l'idée de traduire par "anodines" (it sounds more French) mais le problème c'est que la phrase suivante commence par " Among the most important,...", donc j'ai un peu du mal à continuer après. Ton autre proposition est celle pour laquelle j'avais opté mais je trouve que c'est pas du très bon français (ça semble pas trop naturel).
Pour la seconde phrase, j'ai rencontré le même problème que toi... Je ne sais pas trop si ça se réfère à The USA ou à "power".

[Van Damsel]

Posté par Sood

Merci pour ta réponse!
Pour la première phrase, j'aime beaucoup l'idée de traduire par "anodines" (it sounds more French) mais le problème c'est que la phrase suivante commence par " Among the most important,...", donc j'ai un peu du mal à continuer après. Ton autre proposition est celle pour laquelle j'avais opté mais je trouve que c'est pas du très bon français (ça semble pas trop naturel).
Pour la seconde phrase, j'ai rencontré le même problème que toi... Je ne sais pas trop si ça se réfère à The USA ou à "power".

Il me faudrait tes phrases en entier dans leur contexte.

[Sood]

Now real, immense forces were in play, for the power of the United Stats was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence. In his address to Congress nine days after the attack, George W. Bush expanded the "war of terror to states, declaring, "From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United Stats as hostile regime."

[Van Damsel]

Posté par Sood

Now real, immense forces were in play, for the power of the United Stats was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence. In his address to Congress nine days after the attack, George W. Bush expanded the "war of terror to states, declaring, "From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United Stats as hostile regime."

Ok, je comprends mieux. (Mais je pense que le "it" faut référence au pouvoir mais je trouve ça bizarre, je trouve le texte faible aussi avec toutes ces répétitions)

Ça donnerait "Désormais réel, les immenses forces étaient en jeu car le pouvoir des Etats-Unis était vrai et immense, et ce qu'il a fait [mais je dirais "ce qu'il s'est passé" étant donné qu'on parle des attentats] a eu des conséquences mondiales.
Lors de son discours au Congrès neuf jours après l'attentat, George W.Bush a développé [cette idée] de "guerre de la terreur aux états" en déclarant "à partir de ce jour, toute nation qui continuera à maintenir ou soutenir le terrorisme sera considéré comme un état au régime hostile par les États-Unis."

Posté par Glen Coco

Anyway, a girl i know talked to Carl on the phone and she said he talks like a chav

Well I'd say he's just the mumbling champion of world, but what does being a mumbler have to do with chavish talking? I don't really get it.

[lastgirlstand]

Posté par Sood

Now real, immense forces were in play, for the power of the United Stats was real and immense, and what it did was truly global in reach and consequence. In his address to Congress nine days after the attack, George W. Bush expanded the "war of terror to states, declaring, "From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United Stats as hostile regime."

Est ce qu'il y aurait une phrase avant par hasard?

[Ithurielle]

Posté par Bill's girlfriend

Edit: Btw girls, speaking of accents, what does yours sound like in english? ^^

J'ai aucun mérite vu que j'étudie en Angleterre, but generally people don't notice I'm not British when they first meet me, and they don't always believe me when I say I'm French. I'm asked where I'm from in the UK rather than where I'm from in the world, which is definitely a good thing!

Posté par Lenn

My english friends told me that I had an American accent ( surely because I watch a LOT of american series lol ), but if I watch an English movie for example, I'll just copy their accent ( last time was with the Misfits series, I started talking like Kelly, then I KNEW I had to stop watching this )

Basically I'm a parrot

Watch QI and Spooks to get rid of your American accent (if you want to), other good series to watch are A Bit of Fry and Laurie, anything by the Monty Pythons, and if you're after entertaining shows (not actual series), Don't Tell the Bride, Masterchef, Come Dine With Me, Snog Marry Avoid are all brilliant.

[Lenn]

Posté par Ithurielle

Watch QI and Spooks to get rid of your American accent (if you want to), other good series to watch are A Bit of Fry and Laurie, anything by the Monty Pythons

Ohh I used to watch them when I was in High School ! Thank you, I forgot how funny they were

, and if you're after entertaining shows (not actual series), Don't Tell the Bride, Masterchef, Come Dine With Me, Snog Marry Avoid are all brilliant.

Yeah I watch that whenever I go to London ( but I have to admit I like the french version of Come Dine With Me better )

Where are you studying in England ? You're lucky

[Ithurielle]

Posté par Lenn

Ohh I used to watch them when I was in High School ! Thank you, I forgot how funny they were



Yeah I watch that whenever I go to London ( but I have to admit I like the french version of Come Dine With Me better )

Where are you studying in England ? You're lucky

But you don't have the voice-over in the French Come Dine With Me! I study at Manchester University, entering final year now, scary times!

[Sood]

Posté par lastgirlstand

Est ce qu'il y aurait une phrase avant par hasard?

C'est la première phrase d'un nouveau paragraphe donc ce qui précède n'est pas vraiment lié à cette partie de la phrase.

Merci Van Damsel, je vais m'appuyer sur ce que tu as proposé! C'est vrai que la tournure des phrases est assez lourde.
En revanche, je n'arrive toujours pas à une traduction satisfaisante de la toute première phrase du texte... "The attacks of the September 11 were many things. Among the most important, we can see now that a decade has passed, is that they were a portal into a phantasmal world, in which the USA has wandered since."

[Glen Coco]

Posté par Utomlyonnye solntsem

Well I'd say he's just the mumbling champion of world, but what does being a mumbler have to do with chavish talking? I don't really get it.

We're not saying that because you mumble then you're a chav, it's just that we've only watch him in interviews and yeah, it's pretty difficult to understand him but that girl talked to him in real life and he does talk a bit like a chav. I mean you don't have to mumble to talk like a chav but apparently Carl mumbles AND talks like a chav. Which sucks. But he's absolutely amazing so i forgive him for not knowing how to speak correctly

Posté par Glen Coco

We're not saying that because you mumble then you're a chav, it's just that we've only watch him in interviews and yeah, it's pretty difficult to understand him but that girl talked to him in real life and he does talk a bit like a chav. I mean you don't have to mumble to talk like a chav but apparently Carl mumbles AND talks like a chav. Which sucks. But he's absolutely amazing so i forgive him for not knowing how to speak correctly

Yeah but I really believe he does not talk like a chav. He talks any way but chavishly, seriously. I won't let anyone relate him to chavs. He even created some band with Tim Burgess, whose very name was The Chavs, and in which he was mocking the chavs. Yes, I'm taking the Barât case quite personally. That's a serious underrated issue indeed.

[Glen Coco]

Posté par Utomlyonnye solntsem

Yeah but I really believe he does not talk like a chav. He talks any way but chavishly, seriously. I won't let anyone relate him to chavs. He even created some band with Tim Burgess, whose very name was The Chavs, and in which he was mocking the chavs. Yes, I'm taking the Barât case quite personally. That's a serious underrated issue indeed.

Yeah i know about The Chavs, btw did they record some songs because i can't find any song from that band I don't really know what to think about all that stuff, actually, it doesn't bother me that much to know if he talks like a chav or not. I remember when i went to his gig, no one could understand a thing but it was quite a long time ago so i can't say if he talked in a chavish way or not but i remember he was absolutely lovely


Could someone tell me how to pronounce 'bollocks' ? Is it like bollocks or bollocks ?? (you know the tonic accent or whatever you call it )

Posté par Glen Coco

Yeah i know about The Chavs, btw did they record some songs because i can't find any song from that band I don't really know what to think about all that stuff, actually, it doesn't bother me that much to know if he talks like a chav or not. I remember when i went to his gig, no one could understand a thing but it was quite a long time ago so i can't say if he talked in a chavish way or not but i remember he was absolutely lovely


Could someone tell me how to pronounce 'bollocks' ? Is it like bollocks or bollocks ?? (you know the tonic accent or whatever you call it )

No, no official record release from the Chavs. They actually hardly reunited for gigs. Just like a couple times. They kind of dropped the project actually. But it was a sort of a drunken-born one so... There are only a couple of tracks - low quality bootleg live songs from these reunions - that are kinda difficult to be found on the Internet. I have 2 songs, I can upload them for you if you I wanna but it's really poor quality. But they are 2 funny covers though!